Strikeforce Has The #1 Male And Female Fighter In MMA
welcome fedor! strikeforce has the number one rated mens and womans fighters in MMA. with the upcoming 8-15 event we are once again making history and moving the sport forward.
congrats to tito for showing his true colors and getting back in the UFC; nice to see him back with his father dana white.
frank
congrats to tito for showing his true colors and getting back in the UFC; nice to see him back with his father dana white.
frank
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Fedor is a b$#@h scared of Brock!
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Fedor is scared of Brock? You are joking aren't you?
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Can you seriously blame Tito for going where the competition and the money is? At 205, with a healthy back, he can still do some damage, and it's a stacked division.
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don't be an arse. Strikeforce is a great organization and is great for the sport of MMA, but it is in no way on par with the UFC in any regard. It's almost like the MLB farm system.
Thus, Fedor will never be the undisputed #1 P4P until he competes in the UFC. As for women's MMA, right now, it belongs at the less prominent level until it becomes more mainstream and increases it's numbers and depth. -
and sforce is going out of business by mid 2010....
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Naw, they have a good business model. The only way it goes under is if M-1 bleeds it for too much. I hope Fedor only sticks around for 3 fights and lets SF go on its merry way. I have high hopes for SF.
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Me too atlarge, I second that!
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Great to see Fedor in an organization that lets the fighters have the spotlight and treats them with respect.
Ignore the folks who have the sick preoccupation with Uncle Fester & his circus. You can not expect anything but dishonesty, duplicity and unethical actions from Dana White. Fedor is in a classier environment and chose the correct banner to fight under.
The UFC offer was never serious, but a ruse for UFC fans to make them believe they were serious in negotiating for Fedor's services. You don't trot out a bunch of fantasy estimates through a media mouthpiece in an attempt to damage a fighter's public appeal. The UFC deals in lies and endless self aggrandizement at the expense of the fighters dignity and self respect. White is a spoiled child.
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Boy, oh boy, I finally found someone who is on the same page that I am! Hallelujah! I am glad to make your acquaintance Freudor!
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Fedor is already a legend. When you're a brilliant fighter who does what he wants without worring about anything, ever, you don't care about what other people think about you. Kudos to Fedor for sticking to his values and retaining the ever-important aspect of integrity within the sport. He will continue to fight top level guys on his terms.
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i have never seen fedor fight he is supposed to be the best there is but since he declined the offer that the ufc gave him i guess i will never see him fight and i really cannot blame tito if he goes back to the ufc after all the ufc for him spells money and a lot of exposure.
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LMAO AT THE PAC-MAN LINE HAHAHAHA
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Really... 30 mil over x amt of fights and allowed to put up logos..how much of a perk is that? Pulling up logos of a company that you are a partial partner in? That's like me saying i'll allow you to put a sign up in your backyard. and the cut of the PPV isn't really anything considering those offers have been given to Chuck and Matt and furthermore you dont know which percentage...and i read that Dana wasn't with the sambo tournament sht either. Come on man you trying to tell me he'd invest 30m in a person that may get injured in a tournament? So you're saying 5mil a fight is adequate if you have every HW gunning for you? If Dana wanted it so much he should've let the co promotion go on even if it was for a small window but of course he wouldn't because it would be the BIGGEST payday the UFC would've ever seen.
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That response sounds like it is from someone who is sniffing the paint as it dries.
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when u posted that he will never be a legend if he dodges the ufc is so true, he's like a myth something that you hear of that is supposed to be great but you're never ever really sure. i am so disappointed.
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I really don't know how Shamrock can make the claim that Fedor is the best fighter in the MMA and that his decision to join Strikeforce was positive in any way. First, he has not fought all of the best fighters in the MMA, so this fact alone negates this claim. Second, Fedor's offer from UFC was amazing, and unheard of in the world of MMA. His decision to join Strikeforce just seemed to have taken away from the sport and this type of fission just hinders the sport's progress as a whole.
His comment about Tito is kind of funny, I have to admit, but I believe Ortiz made the right decision. He is one of the most recognized fighters in MMA history, making his image mainstream and accessible to a more general public. This means more publicity for the UFC (and MMA in general) and more money for everyone. -
ok so who did Fedore fight that was worth nothing he beat all the former UFC belt holders except for Randy and MIr so far...Herring, Randlemann former ufc champ, Coleman<-former UFC champ, Nog twice..when he was in his prime, Fujita, Cro Cop when he was kicking people heads into the nacho stands, and Matt Lindland...and you're saying he never fought anybody? HUH? Brock fought one decent opponent and that was Randy and Randy was giving him the business the first round. Mir dont count cause he can't take a punch..he turns into a fetus when he gets punched
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I never said he fought a fight that "was worth nothing." I commend him for his skill, and believe he might be the best heavyweight (I'm still completely biased in that I can't ever say that he is the best p4p fighter since I am a fan of GSP). He has an impressive record, but he still has not fought everyone out there and with this move to join Strikeforce, he might never get this chance.
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If he's signed with the UFC he wouldn;t have fought "everyone out there" either. Unless Overeem, Rogers, Monson, and maybe eventually Barnett enter the UFC at the same time. (will never happen with Barnett).
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Overeem was defending himself against an overly aggressive bouncer. It wasn't a street brawl. There's no way Monson is going to receive jailtime for graffiti charges. The assault charges against him were dropped due to lack of evidence.
I agree, Rogers isn't ready, but he has an almost identical record to Carwin, so if you discount Rogers, you must discount Carwin. You should watch some of Overeem's most recent fights if you're not interested in his rebirth as a heavyweight. They're available if you spend a little time looking.
Monson is a premier heavyweight, whether you like it or not. 6 wins in a row, 3 against good competition. Sergei Kharitonov, Roy Nelson and Ricco Rodriguez are all tough opponents.
No one wants to see Nog get beaten down a 4th time. Randy might be an interesting fight if he can put back on the 10 or 15 pounds of muscle he seems to have lost. Mirko might be interesting, but not right now. His knee is only around 60% (I'm basing this on his saying that it was around 50% for the Al-Turk fight, which is why he threw no kicks, he was having issues with rotation) He also has to show that he still has the ability to compete with the big boys, even though I have him ranked fairly high based on his past performances. Who else do we have? Brock I guess? Everyone is clamoring for that fight, mostly because people want Fedor to shut Brock up. Hey that's cool. But I don't get people saying that a man who is 30-1-1, and hasn't officially lost a bout since 2000, needs to fight a man who is 4-1 overall in MMA to cement his legacy. Yes Fedor has crushed a few cans, but in reality, only 8 of those 30 wins came against subpar/freakshow competition. If you removed the UFC Banner and the title from around his waist and looked at their competition levels, yes, Brock has faced a sightly higher level of competition over his -5- career MMA fights, but he was thrown in the deep end right away, and he is most certainly a skilled and beastly individual. I want to see Brock legitimize himself by beating a string of actual top 10 opponents (I didn't think Mir should have been top ten, even after beating Nog, but I don't rank fighters based on their most recent fight alone). I'd like to see Brock fight, in no particular order, a healthy Nog, an unrusty and properly sized Randy, Carwin (after he beats Cain, and he will beat Cain), and maybe Mirko if Mikro gets his head on straight and his body is still up to it. Then he should get a crack at Fedor.
One last thing. Everyone seems to think that Fedor has final say in the contract negotiations. He doesn't. He's a part shareholder/owner in M-1, to the tune of about 20%. Vadim in the majoirty owner of M-1. Fedor is under contract to M-1 for 3 more fights. M-1, and therefore Vadim, controls his destiny until that contract is up. Fedor has 0 say in which company Vadim co-promotes, since that's the only thing Vadim is willing to do with M-1 it seems. Fedor could have very well liked the UFC's offer, but not been able to do anything about it. Having your manager as your boss is backward, and not a good idea. -
I don't know about the rest of the yardbarkers but I'm interested in seeing him against Overeem , Rogers, and Werdum.
Like Vadim mentioned in the interview the offer was less than half of $5million per fight.
Mayweather rakes in more than $20 million per fight.
According to most sports news UFC is now the leading PPV seller.
So how come they are offering Fedor less than $5mil?
I believe Strikeforce offered a little better than the UFC.
Fedor has paid his dues so give him some slack.
He won 30 of his professional fights and Brock is not even half of that yet. -
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Keep tellin' it like it is brother, I believe in what you are saying.
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Fedor isn't scared of Brock. I'd be suprised if he was scared of anyone or anything. I've been hearing there's more to it than we all know. Fedor really wanted to fight in the UFC and he really wants to fight Lesnar. There's more to it than is being let on. Though M-1 was offered a lot of these things, the co-promotion between the two was the biggest hurdle. Strikeforce was more willing and open to co-promote with M-1 than the UFC was. Go to mmajunkie.com to read all about that. Who said to be the best you have to fight in the UFC anyways?
Carano is not the #1 female fighter. She may be the #1 money maker out of all the female fighters, and the ones people go to see fight but, definitely not the #1 fighter. That would go to her opponent, Cyborg. -
Oh, oh. Looks like you and Grandma need to make a little bet on Carano v Cyborg. I do agree with you on the Fedor/UFC matter though.
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LET ME MAP THIS OUT AND HOPEFULLY its once and for all
1)Tito is going to get his as beat thoroughly in the UFC he's never adapted his game... and since his back was "jacked up" he couldn't have worked on his jits or wrestling much. Tito has nothing but a single leg, and good cardio in which means sht in the LHW division in the UFC.
2) Fedor still had 3 fights left and the UFC can scream they tried to do all they wanted to get him but YOU dont know what was really offered. They were pushing for co promotion and considering UFC likes to bleed the sht out of its fighters i know that wasn't going to go down. Come on man we talking about a company that wanted to get rid of an entire gym of UFC fighters because one of them wouldn't sign over his rights to a video game.. a fcking video game....now they're receiving the same threat if they assist in the EA video game
3) i don't know if you saw the video in which Fedor said plain as day off the top..he recalled the comments made about him by DANA ...if you're fighting in multi fight tournaments, sambo tournaments, and fighting superheavyweights as well..IN JAPAN where mf's is juicing more than Orange Julius...and you have a fcking washed up Jazzercise instructor saying you're not a good fighter are you serious?
4) With that said sometimes its mroe about honor then money or even pleasing the fan
5) The UFC just FINALLY received a decent HW division and everyone is under the impression that he has to prove himself in that area...Besides Brock who's really left that can give Fedor problems? Speaking of which i dont even think Brock would give him problems...who would he put in NOg..oh i forgot Nog got his ass tore with Fedor twice, then who Randy...what would he do ask for sympathy while showing Fedor his AARP card in the cage, Mir..Get Serious, Valesquez..he's good..but not ready yet.
Strikeforce has Overeem and Werdum which aren't push overs by any means. So either you're a MMA fan or a UFC fan...
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The problem is that UFC fans are not MMA fans, they think that the UFC invented the sport.
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I LOVE THE FEDOR SUPPORTER'S(*COUGH dickrider's COUGH*)....please stop backing the man,he is not the best in the world,i will say it looks as if he is scared of brock(i didnt say he is for sure like the people who claim for sure he isnt,but it looks that way) and if all you are doing is fighting bums then you are not p4p the greatest period......fedor is like bigfoot,mad stories but if i dont see him for myself, fu*k em!!!
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byanywear, is fedor your idol?
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I dont idolize anyone walking the pavement they piss standing up just like i do...if he wasn't the fighter to beat...why would we be having a discussion? Also just riddle me this....do you think Lesnar is the best HW in MMA? Note i know people that are from Minnesota Martial Arts Academy alumni that are tapping the sht out of Brock AT WILL
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i think its an issue of pride over anything.. Monster if someone that didnt know you called your moms a btch or said they'll slap the sht out of you when they see you numerous times. ..and time passed you're trying to say if the scenario was right you'd go... "its aiight man" lets do business LOL
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White added a lot more F's and MF's when discussing Fedor and dissing Fedor for two years just could not be erased by one week of Dana curving his F words and trying to make nice. Fedor made the right choice as far as I am concerned.
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Fedor wants his autonomy.
The UFC, under Dana and the Fertitta Bros, is trying to create a monopoly on the MMA game. They want to be the end all, be all for the sport, just like the NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL. Their contracts prohibit fighters from owning their own likeness in perpetuity, from endorsements that compete directly with UFC sponsors and probably have many other restrictions that are not commonly publicized.
I don't blame Fedor for wanting to have full control over his own destiny. By the same token, I understand why the UFC has pressed it's athletes for concessions in order to protect and grow it's own brand. Co-promoting fights with other organizations is completely counter-intuitive for what the UFC is trying to accomplish at this point in their growth.
Fedor will continue to be successful, fighting lesser opponents in lesser organizations. The UFC will continue to be successful as the predominant MMA organization with it's stable of fighters. Fedor will eventually come to the UFC for big bucks when he is winding down his career. Just like Nog, Couture and countless other names who outgrew the smaller organizations or were absorbed by the monolithic UFC. -
exactly the fighters in the UFC just got the shut the fck up note from the UFC saying don't mess with the EA sports game or you will not be in the UFC fighting. You're paying fighters peanuts.yet you're giving them zero oppurtunities to make money..what was it a month ago there was talks that the UFC wanted to handle the sponsorship of the fighters opposed to the fighters managers. I guess even with the M-1 co promotion that sht coudl bring in a higher revenue considering the internationla fan base. And if you think having your events go across seas isn't a big deal you are majjorly fked up in the head.. Why do you think the NBA, NFL have events so often over there? Because the fiscal gain is immense. The UFC wants to dictate EVERYTHING and the monopoly will not hold at this rate
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Heyyyyyyy man come on ... when you come up poor a million is like a KIZZILLION DOLLARS lol...
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I hope a bum in m-1 beats him...... Am I a hater? Maybe...... But I don't give a f**k
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Considering Gina Carano and Cyborg are the only two female MMA fighters that are worth talking about its not even noteworthy stating Strikeforce has the #1 female in MMA. Who else is there??? LOL!
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Considering Gina Carano and Cyborg are the only two female MMA fighters that are worth talking about its not even noteworthy stating Strikeforce has the #1 female in MMA. Who else is there??? LOL!
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